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Figured I’d chime in here on the comments about plastic, and the nutrient solutions.
The plastic these towers are made of is all UV stabilized and fully food grade, certified to not leech anything into the water, or food grow in the system. And while many have said this is unsustainable since plastic is usually petrol based… you need to take into consideration the massive amount of petroleum used to grow and transport produce to our grocery stores – if you have a lot of land and can grow your own without a compact system like this that is fantastic, but there are millions of people who don’t have that luxury, and this system allows them to grow their own instead of relying on our giant gas guzzling agricultural system.
As for the nutrient solutions, they are simply earth and sea based minerals. Minerals, by definition, are NOT organic (chemistry defines the term ‘organic’ as carbon based substances). That said, there is no petroleum or other chemicals used in the nutrients. They are the same minerals you’d get from growing plants in soil, so if you grow food with this system, while the nutrient solutions themselves can’t be called organic since they are just minerals, all the food grown in it with this solution could/would be organic unless you chose to spray or use other additives.
A few things I absolutely LOVE about this system vs soil gardening, and why I grow with 3 of them myself even though I have a sunny 1/4 acre I also grow some soil based gardens on:
1) it allows people who wouldn’t otherwise have the space/time/knowledge to grow their own food to now be able to do so, which in turn empowers people to take ownership of where their food comes from and to make better health choices for them and their families
2) Growing your own food allows you to eliminate not only the tons of herbicides/pesticides/petrol etc that our national agriculture relies on, but also eliminates plastic grocery store bags, gas to and from store/shipping/etc, and tons of food waste.
3) since these towers are a closed loop system, there is zero runoff into our waterways etc and it also protects the food you are growing from contamination,
4) the University of Mississippi, one of the best agricultural research centers in the US, studies these systems compared to soil based gardening, and found that this system met or exceeded what could be produced in the ground on everything from growth rate, yields, disease and pest resistance, and end nutritional content of the produce itself.
5) Growing with this system allows you to grow a garden with up to 90-95% less water than conventional gardening requires to grow a similar crop, and in a time where access to clean water is becoming an ever increasing problem, this is a huge win.
Thanks Jeremy.
Really wish you were the one covering this and not this Grateful rep lmao.
Thanks for the thesis…lol. good stuff!!
I suggest you read “Merchants of Doubt”. As this becomes more popular the agrochemical industry will come after this with FUD.
How does it really use that much less water?
We should never get rid of some natural gardens or farming, but places like this should pop up all over. In cities, in dry or unfarmable areas. This would be such a helpful addition.
There will always be at least some conventional farming. Corn and wheat for example, cannot be grown vertically because of the height of the stalk. Apples, Peaches, Oranges and so on must be grow in orchards because of the structural nature of the tree. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, but that’s also the beauty of it.
Yeah for both pesticide use and destroying forests for farming it would be nice.
Would love to see that coming
not part of the system
@Ferdinand Vardas I noticed that. The problem is Town and Cities being overly ambitious with Rental Properties and Property Taxes.
*it’s not this or that, it’s this AND that! We need both*
I love being able to see this kind of farming, but I feel like she just seemed to be more interested in the aesthetic of the place than the science and methodology behind the plants. And like other people have said, she didn’t seem to be on the same wavelength as the guy, and thus didn’t really ask many important questions. I think she should have been more informed before going. However, he was really interesting.
Bra.. it’s a red headed female what’d you expect?
The fact that the guy mentioned using coconut husk as the soil for the plant had my wheels turning.
@Awenda This system is a hydroponic system. The vertical columns are a much more efficient way to manage and distribute nutrient-rich water. These indoor systems are designed for year-round growing. In this system, it’s optimised for leafy greens and herbs.
Commercial hydroponic systems are capable of producing enough produce that can feed well beyond 100 people a day. The crops you mentioned (potatoes, corn, cabbage, broccoli) can’t be grown in a vertical system. However, there are many other methods growing methods for hydroponics.
This video just does a woeful job in explaining anything. It’s solely the presenter’s fault for being more interested in the looks rather than the functionality.
Awenda what’s your evidence?
@Aiden LF He specifically says it’s not soil, it’s coconut husk, when she calls it soil.
An intelligent man who saw a need in his community and acted on it! The world in a good place if there continues to be people like Troy 💚
That’s so true. Such projects usually have a team, funds and investors who help and support them. So they all contribute to making our world a better place🌱
I’d like to see this turned into a documentary where details about the financial aspects and details about the nutrition solution are explored. This is Space Age agriculture. I can see obvious advantages but would like to see the scale up cost in the documentary. Thank you for the video.
add a fish pond below … the fish feed on algae … they poop in the water … the water feeds the plants the plants clean the water … and back to the fish it goes … there you now have your garden and a fish pond with dinner growing in it along with your garden … heck add a worm bed compost fish feeder and now you also grow worms to feed the fish and break down your garden trash again putting nutrients back into the water … and so on … as for cost … how much does it cost for a 12 inch diameter section of drain pipe and say 16 feet of 2inch abs … and some adhesive … and tubing and a pump … and of course a room with good light you can put it … and a tub for the fish … and now you have a fish feeding pond and garden that also supplies your meat and fresh veg as needed …
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aquaponics … is where you combine the garden and the fish huggle culture is where you close the loop even further by including the bits needed to compost down the waste materials back into useful nutrients for the system … from adding may fly larva to worms to ducks and chickens … etc … you can make a complete self supporting garden that will supply meat veg and even eggs in small scale … or if made into a major deal can provide cow feed and increase garden production by a HUGE amount …
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all in all for basic system you can build it for under $1,000 bucks …. and use it for years … so how many veg would it have to produce to pay for itself … if you grew 120 plants of iceberg lettuce and each head cost 2bucks at the store … then 500 plants or 5 grow sessions of lettuce would pay for the complete setup … every plant after that is FREE except for the time to tend them …
@0623kaboom men, a 4 towers hidroponic sistem, can be as expensive as 500 bucks… and with a high of 1.80 mts tall, you can easily put about 12 to 24 plant set EACH, and the only real expensive thing would be liquid nutrients.
But about the other things you put… are basically unviable, at least the worm bed
Plenty plans to build a giant vertical farm near every major city
https://youtu.be/v6vp3iaGFTU
Nice! We need more of this ideas and green concepts (in this strange year). Inspiring!
I really like the idea of indoor and vertical farming. I think it would be useful for Canadian farms. We have a pretty short growing season so we wouldn’t have to rely on foreign markets so much. Thinks like vegetables, fruit, and berries are expensive the farther north you go and it’s not unusual to see mould in berries by the time they get up to where I live. It’s September 10th and we’re getting frost warnings at night but the afternoons are unbearably hot. So it would be nice if farms around where I live used indoor farming over the winter to plant crops we normally have to import. It would cut down drastically on the amount of nonrenewable resources used to get us just a few strawberries. There are places in the territories you only get in by flying, places that pay $5 for a head of lettuce, they really need access to this sort of thing. I know at least one community created a year round green house but I wish it was more common. Places with droughts, short growing seasons, or a lot of people to feed but not a lot of land could really use this kind of system. I hope governments pay closer attention to these sort of solutions and alternatives and see if that’s something they can encourage or work with bring to their own communities
nurse here. when I talk to most other nurses about food nutrition they look at me like I have 3 arms. this guy speaks everything I talk of. “meds are bandaids”. “everyone’s micronutrition is off”. great guy, keep spreading the good work.
man i wish my family and i had nutritious food. this innovation could be such a life saver if it was used all over the world.
I actually find this creative and sustainable just basing it on the fact that its using less land and less water (which is quite the need of the hour) and even then producing good quality vegetables. and even if some people might consider it ‘unsustainable’ it at least is an effort towards being better!
Every sizeable (and that could be as small as thousands of people) community could have a bunch of these indoor vertical farms for their year-round local food supply needs.
Why is this not everywhere? Fake hold ups. Yes. Not because we can’t technically do this. Not because it isn’t efficient. Sure there are some complications to sort out, but that can be done. The hold up is we are trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. The round hole is the infinite growth, profit maximizing monetary-market system that the world uses currently as an ‘economy’ with the square peg that is: Environmental and mental health and sustainability. That’s what we want, but we can’t get there in the wrong sort of economy.
But we can change. It won’t be easy. But it’s possible. Dare I say, inspiring, if you know where to look. Look at all the systems we could be using: Circular Economy, Open-Access Economy or Natural Law Resource Based Economy. Never heard of them? Not surprised. The super rich ownership class don’t exactly wanting people to know about it. However, that shouldn’t stop you.
Plenty plans to build a giant vertical farm near every major city
https://youtu.be/v6vp3iaGFTU
@Raddy101 The WEF has talked quite a bit about a Circular Economy and those people are the super rich ownership class you are referring to.
@Chazaq S The WEF folks can talk about whatever they want to talk about, and they have talked about a lot of things, but what’s your point? Forget them, they aren’t going to control your life and mind unless you let them over fear and paranoia.
What I’m talking about is system thinking. The system we have now of monetary-market capitalism is socially, economically and environmentally unsustainable. It already has a tiny minority of super rich owners. In the capitalist game, they have already won that game of Monopoly. And the system will run off course and take most of humanity down with it if we don’t talk about what really matters: System change.
Start local. The WEF aren’t in your local town are they? So, read as much as you can and learn as much as you can about systems, science and Natural Law. If the ‘-isms’ are distracting you, don’t let them. Keep looking at the facts and figures until you understand the root problem and then you can work on viable solutions, such as building up local self-sustainable communities with co-ops that people choose to engage in and benefit from by creating abundance of basic needs for all who want it. That’s a practical, possible solution. Worrying about the WEF is not.
Thank you for making this video! I am planning to make a similar setup that can produce fresh vegetables year round for my family to eat.
These sorts of vertical farms are invaluable for reducing the field space required for plants that perform well in hydroponic and aquaponic setups and freeing up space for crops that do not do well in or can not be grown in hydroponic environments.
Bill gates approves
@Nephilim’s Hammer you will own nothing and you will be happy. :^)
this can also stop deforestation for farm land.
@The Kingpin True as well or allow farms to produce tree crops with net carbon negative impacts.
Destiny Identification direction
When you look at the embodied energy of any product, one of, if not the largest component is the energy to transport the item to your door. If these farms popped up locally, and cold be competitive on price, this would be good for people’s health and for the environment.
So many plants cannot grow this way but, I love the vertical concept.
I’d be curious to see the nutrient content of these plants as compared to say an “organic”, no-till crop
The taste would not be comparable. Veggies grown in soil taste far superior.
They would be less nutritious than organic ones. You need the soil for its biome of microorganisms. These microorganisms break down minerals into forms that the plant can uptake. Since organic plants have access to more nutrients they will in turn be more nutritious. They taste much better too.
@bear532 Your actually wrong on that, NASA has done tons of research on aeroponics and have proven that high pressure aeroponics growing systems produce more nutrient dense plants with better flavor than even permaculture can, using a fraction of the water and space needed in soil based farming. You also need to realize that the origin of a molecule does not effect it’s safety profile as nitrogen is nitrogen no matter the source.
@bear532 But you spray the plants in vertical farms with the minerals already broken down into forms the plant can uptake. So, no need for soil microbes.
Imagine if every household or commute had a garden. I need to buy a house with land
Very nice video 👍
I had a small hydroponic grower I tried. It worked excellent, and it grew way faster than the other things I had growing for about a year. The issue for me was it also grew mold 😖 which was beyond depressing, but I love this concept so much.
Because the water & nutrients are continually circulating, mold is not an issue.
@True Garden What you have going on here is what I aspire to have. You’re an inspiration, and this is truly beautiful.
@SkyeEmber 💗
I like how down to earth and friendly like a normal-every day person this reporter was.
Some people might see it differently because the way our internet is (words that come to mind: authoritative, ignorant, perfect, etc.)
It’s nice to see someone that’s genuinely curious and respectful.
We 100% agree!
I really like the development of agriculture in the future which makes agriculture no longer underestimated and this video has discussed the fact that with just a little land and water you can produce good vegetables (vertical farming). thanks for the video!!!